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Chuck Parker - 18 November, 1998

Response to Wayne Gall's message regarding collecting and sorting

Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:31:20 -0500
From: Chuck_Parker@nps.gov (Chuck Parker)
Subject: Collecting and Sorting Team
To: wgall@buffnet.net, moth@ra.msstate.edu, cover@oeb.harvard.edu,
        dietrich@denr1.igis.uiuc.edu, foster.mercedes@nmnh.si.edu,
        bright.cheryl@nmnh.si.edu
Cc: pick@pick.uga.edu, Keith_Langdon@nps.gov (Keith Langdon)

     Wayne,  My responses are highlighted in red.

     Chuck -
             At this time I am still interested and available to work on
     the Collecting Working Group (CWG) for the ATBI of GSMNP, and am
     planning to attend the second ATBI workshop in Gatlinburg from 14-17
     December.  I trust that you will keep me posted re: registration,
     lodging, etc.  I have visited the ATBI web site and submitted the
     information requested for participants.
             I believe the ATBI for GSMNP is an exciting biodiversity
     initiative of national and international significance.  I am
     interested in contributing to the effort, but have several questions
     that I must ask myself and you, as to how I can most effectively do
     this.
             Regarding logistics: Is my continuing participation justified
     given my remote location from GSMNP?  Would the interests of DLIA be
     better served by having participants that are based in much closer
     proximity to GSMNP than Buffalo? In planning my work schedule for next
     year, what time commitment is expected of me? This will be the second
     meeting I have attended where the  Buffalo Museum of Science has
     covered my costs for attending.  I appreciate that the ATBI is still
     in its formative stages, and needs the goodwill and support of
     prospective collaborators.  But at some future point, would it not be
     reasonable to expect that since cooperating agencies (such as our
     Museum) are giving participants (such as me) release time (i.e.,
     in-kind contribution of my salaried time), that DLIA could leverage
     funds to cover the costs of attending these workshops?

     First of all, thank you for continuing to be supportive of the ATBI
     and wanting to participate on the Collecting and Sorting Team (CST -
     please note the new name - Hey, it must be a full-fledged bureaucracy
     already!).  Your distance from GRSM is not a problem for us. We do not
     have enough expertise within North America to undertake this effort,
     let alone within the region surrounding the Park.  Some participants
     will be close by, others will be thousands of miles away.  Hopefully,
     with the Internet, email, voice mail, faxes, etc., we will still be
     able to communicate easily with everyone who is interested in
     participating.  The difficulty comes when travel is necessary. DLIA
     will be providing money in a variety of ways for people to work on the
     ATBI. More of the details about that will be available at the December
     meeting. One idea is that DLIA will make grants to as many
     participants as possible on the order of a few hundred to a few
     thousand dollars each, to cover travel, lodging, expenses, equipment,
     and supplies. These can be renewed yearly, provided the recipient
     meets whatever requirements DLIA establishes.  As far as this
     December's meeting, I still don't know what I will be able to offer to
     team members who want to attend. I will know more Friday evening after
     our next planning session, and I will let you know what I can offer.
     I think it is great that your institution is supporting the ATBI by
     assisting you through travel and release time.  Please let your
     administration know how grateful I am, and how much it means to the
     Great Smoky Mountains National Park, the ATBI, and Discover Life in
     America to have that kind of support from the Buffalo Museum of
     Science.  No matter how much money we raise for this project over the
     coming years, now is the critical time to get this effort underway and
     we need the gracious support of individuals and institutions to help
     get us over the initial fund-raising hump, if you will.  It is a great
     deal of importance to the fund raising arm of DLIA to be able to
     approach potential contributors and point to the support we are
     receiving from the scientific community.  Contributors are much more
     likely to be generous if they see a broad base of support among
     scientists and scientific institutions, and financial support such as
     travel and time are more impressive than words of support.

              Regarding organizational structure: Are members of the CWG
     also active participants of the Taxonomic Working Groups (TWIGs)?  If
     not, and if the CWG needs "to coordinate closely with  the TWIGs," and
     if "we [the CWG?] will be dependent on TWIGs to point us to the
     appropriate methods, literature, and discussions of related issues
     that may be helpful," why not eliminate a layer of bureaucracy by
     having the CWG composed of representatives (selected specialists) from
     the TWIGs (e.g., an entomologist, a non-insect invertebrate biologist,
     a vertebrate zoologist, etc.)?  There seems to be inconsistency in the
     statements that members of the CWG will not be doing collecting on
     LRAs, but individual authorities doing traditional collecting outside
     LRAs "may want to spend a considerable amount of time exploring the
     Park to their best advantage."  Will the CWG or TWIGs decide who the
     individual authorities will be, and coordinate their efforts? There
     also seems to be inconsistency in the notion that an important task of
     the CWG will be to make the inventory process as efficient as
     possible, but that that CWG members will not be involved in setting
     up, maintaining, and emptying traps--then what is it that the CWG will
     make efficient? Only determine the human resource requirements?
     Wouldn't the TWIGs be able to do this more efficiently since they have
     specific knowledge of the collecting techniques and efforts required
     for their particular organismal groups?

     Participants may be involved at any level they wish.  I will be a part
     of the aquatic twig as well as the CST, and I expect most other CST
     members will be involved in a twig, as well as.  However, at least one
     person has told me that their involvement will be limited to just the
     CST, since they are too busy for any broader committment, and that is
     fine.  What I mean to imply with the statement that members of the CST
     will not be doing the collecting on the LRAs is that we envision, at
     present, that most of that activity will be done by technicians.
     There are several reasons for this, including the fact that plans call
     for 250-2500 plots, each with malaise traps, pitfall traps, funnel
     traps, etc.  Servicing those plots will be a full-time job, especially
     since there is no real off season.   Because of the mild climate here,
     Pickering is running his 16 malaise traps in the Park year-round.
     Those traps require a 40-mile hike every two weeks to replace the
     collecting heads, and many hours of student time in the lab at UGA to
     sort out just the ichneumonoids.  When we get geared up with hundreds
     or thousands of plots to be visited regularly, it will be necessary to
     have several full-time teams of technicians servicing the plots,
     chasing off bears, repairing the traps, nets, etc., labeling samples,
     returning everything to the lab, and so on.  When samples are
     delivered to the lab, they then have to be processed, which includes
     sorting, mounting, labeling, entering into the database, and sending
     sorted, labeled specimens to the appropriate specialists.  This will
     be another massive job that we need to make as efficient as possible.
     I, personally, love sorting bulk samples just to see what's in them.
     However, nothing has been more difficult than to find employees who
     will spend hours on end doing that. Usually after a couple of days
     they are ready to quit.  And, a poorly sorted sample is more work to
     resort than to sort correctly in the first place.  So this will be a
     critical step to get done correctly.  I can't imagine sending unsorted
     samples to a mite specialist to sort out the mites, then ask them to
     pass the "residue" on to a carabid specialist to pick out the ground
     beetles, who then passes the sample on to a pselaphid specialist, and
     so on.  So several central sorting efforts will be necessary.  The
     Division of Invertebrate Zoology at the Smithsonian has a kind of
     "sample triage" procedure that they use for bulk samples from around
     the world.  Cheryl Bright of that Division has agreed to join the CST
     in order to help us in designing something similar for the ATBI.
     Ernie Bernard of the University of Tennessee, the leader of the
     apterygote twig (and acting leader of the nematode twig), has offered
     to set up a litter processing center at UT if DLIA will provide help
     with getting the funnels and other materials set up there.  Other
     similar efforts will be required for malaise traps, pitfall traps,
     etc.  Unless, of course, someone has a better idea of how to proceed?

     Why not just have the twigs set up the plots the way they want and do
     away with the CST altogether?  I don't think that would be at all
     efficient.  For instance, there are potentially participants in
     several different twigs who might be interested in the specimens from
     malaise traps.  But, there are many different designs of malaise
     traps, just as there are many different designs of pitfall traps,
     flight intercept traps, etc.  Using a wide variety of designs of the
     same type of trap may appeal to the independent streak in each of us,
     but it impedes our ability to compare data from trap to trap, and plot
     to plot, is less cost effective, more of a maintenance headache, etc.
     Multiply those concerns times the number of types of pitfall traps,
     light traps, emergence traps, pan traps, etc., and the difficulties
     quickly get out of hand.  For the structured component, I think it is
     important to make certain compromises by standardizing on one
     (possibly two) design(s) of malaise trap, one or two designs of pit
     fall trap, whether and when we use baits, etc.  Where there are strong
     feelings about design A vs design B, we could either use both, select
     A instead of B, or help work out an acceptable compromise.  There will
     be disagreements within twigs, too, of course.  The Coleoptera twig
     covers a huge number of species that occupy a wide variety of
     habitats.  No one approach will be suitable for everyone.  For some,
     any compromise may be unacceptable, in which case they always have the
     option of using their favorite techinque anyway.  And, not all
     organisms lend themselves to the structured part of the effort.
     Certain microleps, for example, must be collected individually, and
     then pinned and spread almost immediately by an expert in order to be
     useful systematically.  And, I don't see the structured approach being
     particularly useful for the aquatic twig at all.

             I trust that these are the kinds of questions that will foster
     useful discussion. I look forward to hearing from you.

     I hope I have covered most of your concerns. Please let me know if I
     have missed anything, or, more important, if you think the approach I
     am advocating is incorrect.

     I will let each of you know the results of the Friday planning session
     especially as it relates to attendance at the December meeting.  By
     the way, we are trying to get Peter Raven to give the keynote address
     at the meeting.  He is on our science advisory board, along with Ed
     Wilson, Ron Pulliam, and others I can't remember.

     Wayne has a different email address than I gave in the previous
     message - wgall@buffnet.net

     Cheryl Bright has joined us on the CST.  Her email is -
     bright.cheryl@nmnh.si.edu

     Chuck







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